New stuff.

Dec. 20th, 2008 11:24 am
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So... I come home from my trip to New York to discover that I have a new roommate and a Macbook. Unfortunately, I am also sans one piece of luggage, the one that contains my toothbrush and pajamas...

Of course, I went out and bought the macbook. It's not like it was waiting for me here. But it was here when I get back, yes. :P

And my roommate is a lot hairier and has more legs than I was expecting.

So what all software do I need to install on this thing?

The laptop, not the roommate.

Date: 2008-12-20 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinlefey.livejournal.com
iCat or iDog, depending on the model.

Date: 2008-12-20 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maradydd.livejournal.com
If you'll be doing development on it, grab XCode, for sure. You may also want X11. Apple provides both as a download.

Lots of people really like TextMate as an editor.

For standard unix apps and free-as-in-freedom software from the Linux/BSD world, you have two options: Fink (http://www.finkproject.org/) and Mac Ports (http://www.macports.org/). Which one you go with is largely a question of whether you prefer apt-get or a BSD-style ports tree. I have heard that Mac Ports has some nonsensical dependencies (requiring Gtk for a KDE install, for instance) but this is third-hand.

Adium for IM.

Date: 2008-12-20 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberspice.livejournal.com
Grab XCode first. You should then be able to compile most stuff from source since an awful lot of the libraries are already in OS-X and I don't like the way the porting groups seem to double up. To be honest the only OSS app I have in its linux like form is The Gimp and that was a pre-compiled packaged app. The good apps are now mostly pre-packaged anyway so you don't need to go linuxy.

Date: 2008-12-20 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maradydd.livejournal.com
I only use fink, myself, though yes, it is a bit weird that it will bring in its own version of a library even when a sufficient version already exists in /usr/lib. You'd think that wouldn't be too difficult to test. I suspect it might have to do with fink's reliance on apt-get, which I think relies on its package database to determine what's installed rather than using, say, autoconf.

Date: 2008-12-20 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberspice.livejournal.com
Even if it uses debians apt-get you would have thought it could have a pre-packaged database for each of the OS-X releases in the installer. So you install at the base a package which works out your OS-X version and installs the right DB so that apt-get knows what you already have installed.

Date: 2008-12-20 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krint01.livejournal.com
X11 comes with Leopard. Although mine came with a slightly older version, so check that out.

I think XCode might be included with your computer's install discs. All Mac buyers get development tools for free.

Date: 2008-12-20 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maradydd.livejournal.com
X11 comes with Leopard.

Good to know -- I'm still on 10.4. Thanks!

Date: 2008-12-20 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberspice.livejournal.com
/me looks at her mac...

My mostly used additional apps are:

Firefox (for when safari doesn't seem supported)
Adium (IM client)
Colloquy (IRC client)
Handbrake (For converting media to iPod)
VLC (for media playback not supported in Quicktime)
TextWrangler as a general purpose editor.

Everything else I use is a standard installed Apple app. You can get a whole load of codecs for quicktime which also work in front row so I watch my DivXs and AVIs and wot not through that.

Date: 2008-12-20 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maradydd.livejournal.com
Have you used Camino, btw? I find it to be faster than Firefox in general (it's a Cocoa build of the Gecko engine), with a smaller memory footprint, though it doesn't support Firefox extensions, which is a big pain. Firebug is my best friend when I have my web developer hat on.

Date: 2008-12-20 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberspice.livejournal.com
I've played with Camino but I tend to only use Firefox for testing webby stuff (which isn't that often) so I stick with that.

Flock > Firefox or Camino

Date: 2008-12-21 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonyalynn.livejournal.com
I have to say, I'm really liking using Flock for all my social and non-Safari development browsing. It's Gecko 1.9 (same as FF 3.x), is compatible with many FF plugins, AND has some really badass integration with many social web services.

Flock: http://flock.com/

BTW, I find these Safari plugins (OK...InputManagers) utterly indispensable...

Glims: http://www.machangout.com/
SafariStand: http://hetima.com/safari/stand-e.html
SafariBlock: http://code.google.com/p/safariblock/

Date: 2008-12-20 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] viesti.livejournal.com
Sounds like you've already got most of the major food groups taken care of, software-wise. I could always... ummm... offer recommendations for emulators, which is substantially less useful though.

Glad to hear that Trouble has moved in! :)

Date: 2008-12-20 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradox-puree.livejournal.com
Er, no. Just his cat. :P

Date: 2008-12-21 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peaceofpie.livejournal.com
you knew you were getting a cat, right? did it, like, turn out to be a tarantula?!

Glad you're back!

Date: 2008-12-21 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonyalynn.livejournal.com
Let me know when you're having people over...we can hang and have (hopefully less contentious) chats. ;-)

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