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pandora_parrot) wrote2008-11-05 09:59 am
pandora_parrot) wrote2008-11-05 09:59 am
Proposition 8 contemplation
So... The supreme court of California decided that it is unconstitutional to have "separate but equal" definitions of unions for same-sex and different-sex couples. But now, marriage is only defined as between a man and a woman. So what's going to happen when this goes back to the supreme court?
Add your possibilities here, but here's a few I came up with:
The court decision said that California must either exit the business of sanctioning marriage, or it must grant same-sex couples the same rights as different-sex couples. Since the latter is no longer an option, will they have to do the former? Will California declare its marriage declaring powers null and void?
Perhaps they will say that the constitution of California is now self-contradictory. How will that be handled? Will they reject proposition 8 until another proposition is passed, this time to remove the equal protection clause in the constitution?
And what of the consequences of this election?
Will the Mormon church lose its tax exempt status because of how heavily it became involved in politics this year?
Will California decide to make out-of-state contributions to local causes illegal?
What will happen to all of the same-sex couples that have been married in the past few months?
This battle continues ever on. It will be very interesting to see what the next move is.
Add your possibilities here, but here's a few I came up with:
The court decision said that California must either exit the business of sanctioning marriage, or it must grant same-sex couples the same rights as different-sex couples. Since the latter is no longer an option, will they have to do the former? Will California declare its marriage declaring powers null and void?
Perhaps they will say that the constitution of California is now self-contradictory. How will that be handled? Will they reject proposition 8 until another proposition is passed, this time to remove the equal protection clause in the constitution?
And what of the consequences of this election?
Will the Mormon church lose its tax exempt status because of how heavily it became involved in politics this year?
Will California decide to make out-of-state contributions to local causes illegal?
What will happen to all of the same-sex couples that have been married in the past few months?
This battle continues ever on. It will be very interesting to see what the next move is.
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It's going to take time to get people comfortable with the idea. The reason Proposition 8 existed is because the proponents of same-sex marriage in California rushed their agenda. Instead of being patient and waiting until they had the majority behind them, they tried to force same-sex marriage on the majority, which lead to a predictable backlash - a constitutional amendment.
It's not that same-sex marriage is wrong - I firmly believe it is not. It's just that the TIMING was wrong in sanctioning the marriages.
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Revolutions don't come about from playing nice and gently coaxing the opposition around to your POV.
Speaking of Ms. Parks, it's worth noting the amount of opposition which came from African-Americans, who in turn came out to the polls in record numbers to support Obama. I'm not saying that this invalidates how the majority of California voted, but isn't it interesting what the law of unintended consequences brings you?
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Revolutions don't come about from playing nice and gently coaxing the opposition around to your POV.
Civil Rights had 2 very highly placed vocal supporters in the Federal Government - John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson.
Same-sex marriage does not have that, therefore different strategies need to be employed.
It's not a "revolution", its evolution of social consciousness - and one needs to approach the subject with tact and planning, not with the subtlety of Charles Manson's Helter Skelter theory.
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It's a start.